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I've got a growing curiosity about something. So often solving the climate crisis revolves around building more wind turbines, solar modules or electric vehicles. It's a win-win. We can lower our carbon footprint and grow our economy, but can we really have green growth or is our obsession with growth the real problem? If so, what's the alternative? This topic is huge. Thankfully, I know a few big minds who can expand. My understanding,

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And this is where the de-growth argument I think is a rather good one. I mean this idea of unlimited growth is really incompatible with an idea of a finite planet.

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But they very few scholars and researchers focus on the role of technology in perpetuating and reproducing this imperative of growth or how I call it the religion of growth.

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If there is no economic growth in a growth economy, there is crisis. So our subsistence, our survival, employment, work, welfare, all of these are very much strongly linked to growth in contemporary societies.

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Economists have been so blind to communities, right? Much of like theorizing in economics is around either the state or the individual, and we forget what's in between

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Factors that I might choose to measure a happy society or what you call the standard of living, the GDP hasn't bought us that. It's really hard for people knew us to question that. It's so deeply ingrained this kind of mantra that raising the GDP is the only path to all good ends.

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You know, to talk about reduced economic growth is still kind of like that doesn't get you invited to parties, you know, I mean, people begin to look a bit suspicious at you

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Starting May 5th. I talk with six experts over six weeks, all about de-growth. This is no small talk from work and debt to education and innovation. We'll be exploring big ideas around what our world might look like if we prioritize people and planet over endless growth. I'm sure you're growing impatient, so let's get started.

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I'm trying to save the planet. Oh, will someone please save me?